Beth Sarim

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  Evangelicals Lag Behind Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses

  by the girl next door in

  1. watchtower
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  source article: http://www.christianitytoday.com/gleanings/2015/november/evangelicals-mormons-jehovahs-witnesses-church-involvement.html.

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  Interesting find!!
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  Jehovah's Witnesses May Have Peaked in Membership at 8 Million (+/-)

  by OnTheWayOut in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i don't have all the details of their new "service year" numbers, but i have read enough on jwn to state my opinion pretty strongly.. memorial attendance for 2015 was down.while they kept saying they were going to build a bunch of new kingdom halls, and everybody is still in recovery from watchtower taking all the local money away, they say pretty much that there isn't enough money to build new kingdom halls.putting gb members on the videos at jw .

  org has allowed people to really put a face and personality to these guys and remove the mystery of how they should be such deeply spiritual serious men.

  instead they see silly thoughts about tight pants and, really everything that comes out of lett's mouth is delivered ultra-goofy, along with the money reports.. the gb lost credibility a little more with every new light that shone down, with the strangest one being "overlapping generation.

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  Yeah, I can't ever recall Memorial attendance ever being ''down'' before.
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  What is the monthly stipend that the bethelites receive every month?

  by StephaneLaliberte in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what is the monthly stipend that the bethelites receive every month?

  does any one has an actual number?

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  Beth Sarim

  From my understanding the monthly ''stipend'' at Bethel was something in the order of enough to by a pair of pants or pair of shoes. Yes,probably 40-$80 dollar a month range.
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  Preach or Tithe- Publishers choice

  by All for show in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my siblings and i have been talking about the money woes.

  we have thrown around the idea for them to keep the preaching/pioneer arrangement to keep some busy.

  to increase cash flow they can institute a new tithing arrangement.

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  I think the May 2014 congregation donation arrangement was a precursor, or a feeling-out kind of sorts to set-up a 10% tithing basis.
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  Proof that Watchtower Invested $40M into Hedge funds...

  by Newly Enlightened in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  back in 2007. and now the hedge funds are reporting losses.

  could this be why watchtower is crying how broke they are?.

  https://www.watchtowerlies.com/linked/investments_of_watchtower_in_the_hedge_funds_in_cayman_islands_a_tax_haven_40000000_2007_en.pdf.

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  Yes. You see that a lot these days. Even when it comes to construction and other things. A brother is chosen as being more ''spiritual'' for task over a brother who is more ''experienced'' at things. Very annoying.
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  Proof that Watchtower Invested $40M into Hedge funds...

  by Newly Enlightened in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  back in 2007. and now the hedge funds are reporting losses.

  could this be why watchtower is crying how broke they are?.

  https://www.watchtowerlies.com/linked/investments_of_watchtower_in_the_hedge_funds_in_cayman_islands_a_tax_haven_40000000_2007_en.pdf.

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  ''do words like--gambling and greed come to mind?''

  Stan. Yes big, big time.
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  Massive Destruction of Judicial Files Ordered by By Servce Department?

  by Room 215 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  over on the silentlambs facebook site is a copy of a document that purports to be an order by the service depart to destroy files relating to child molestation cases: https://www.facebook.com/silentlambs/photos/a.571978169529812.1073741826.144752662252367/970409503020008/?type=3&theater.

  have any of you seen this?

  is this a real document or bogus?.

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  Destroying evidence is disturbing and alarming. To be instructed to ''obey'' the Borg over the ''laws of the land'' is just something amazing!!! Unbelievable.

  Covering up litigation. I know if I was personally an Elder, I would be resigning over a disturbed ''conscience''' and possible fear of the police and secular authorities. That is should the secular authorities become ''educated'' somehow of instructions to destroy evidence.
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  Proof that Watchtower Invested $40M into Hedge funds...

  by Newly Enlightened in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  back in 2007. and now the hedge funds are reporting losses.

  could this be why watchtower is crying how broke they are?.

  https://www.watchtowerlies.com/linked/investments_of_watchtower_in_the_hedge_funds_in_cayman_islands_a_tax_haven_40000000_2007_en.pdf.

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  Understandably, Hedge funds can be a HUGE risk. Sometimes they do pay massive dividends, but the ''captain obvious'' risk is , What if they don't??

  Nobody really seen the downturn in the economy in the second half of 2008. But the disturbing question is this;

  ''Why would the Borg be willing to take such a risk as this when they are a not for profit organization which doesn't pay taxes??''

  Mindboggling!!
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  I Agree With the Circuit Overseer!!

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when i was just studying, the c.o.

  was brought to my home for a "visit".. the only thing i can remember from his conversation is this - (and the principle is so true, i'm going to use it).

  "searcher, if you're talking to someone about the bible and they don't accept three scriptures as proof about the subject, then don't waste your time trying to give them thirty scriptures, because they clearly don't want to hear the truth.".

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  I know!! There isn't anything in the Bible about having to belong to an Organization, period!!
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  Verify the Audit Checklist/Destruction of Files!

  by Atlantis in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  several people have asked if the audit checklist boe/destruction of files/ can be verified.

  atlantis said that if the previous information was not enough evidence, then i should send you the boe letter where the watchtower admits to sending out the annual audit inspection checklist.. .. write these down:.

  .please see: page 2, number 5. please see: last paragraph on page 3.. please see: page 4 annual audit of files.

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  Beth Sarim

  If Elders are destroying pertinent information, you wonder how their conscience feels. They do go to weekend courses which instructs them to be ''less soft-hearted'', per se.

  I'm thinking that is where they are instructed to ''obey instructions'' from the Borg over those of the ''laws of the Land'', so to speak. That is what disturbs, bothers me!! Where the vast rank and file likely have no clue that the Elders are ''instructed to obey'' any laws over and above anything, anyone else.